Yakusan once asked his disciple, Ungan, “I heard that you know how to deal with the lions – is that true?” Ungan replied, “Yes, it is.” Yakusan asked, “How many of them do you get and deal with?” “Six,” Ungan replied. Yakusan then said, “I also know how to deal with the lion.” Ungan asked, “How many do you get?” Yakusan replied, “Only one.” Ungan then commented, “One is six; six is one.” Later  on, when Ungan visited Isan, Isan said, “I have heard that when you  were with Yakusan, you had a conversation about getting and dealing with  lions. Is that true?” “Yes, it is,” replied Ungan. Isan asked, “Do you continue to deal with them, or do you sometimes stop doing that?” Ungan replied, “When I want to, I deal with them; and when I want to stop, I stop.” “When you stop,” asked Isan, “where do the lions go?” Ungan replied, “Stopping is stopping.”