In this episode of the podcast, Natalie Ledwell is joined by certified relationship and divorce coach, Karen McMahon, to discuss how to find peace and joy despite the chaos in your relationship or the world around you. Karen shares her insights on how to navigate conflict in a healthy way and recognize when it's time to part ways. She emphasizes the importance of looking inward and understanding your own triggers and insecurities, and offers practical tips for communicating effectively with your partner. Whether you're in a healthy relationship experiencing occasional disagreements or considering a separation or divorce, this episode offers valuable advice for cultivating compassion and peace in your life. 0:00 Intro to the podcast. 2:01 How to deal with conflict in your relationship? 3:58 Every upset is a setup. 7:58 How to fix the context of conflict? 12:14 The lack of empathy in high conflict relationships. 16:21 When we feel like a victim or hopeless. 19:44 How to find a path to forgiveness. 24:11 The first step is always awareness. 28:34 Talking to your children about toxic relationships.