“If we are looking for models of self-sustaining communities, we need to look no further than an old-growth forest. Or the old-growth cultures they raised in symbiosis with them,” says Robin Wall Kimmerer, an acclaimed author and teaching professor of Environmental and Forest Biology, in her book “Braiding Sweetgrass”.  The botanist, a researcher at Life Sciences Center, Vilnius University, Dr. Radvilė Rimgailė-Voicik became our guide to the community of vegetation for this episode. The sociologist from Vytautas Magnus University, Dr. Jurga Bučaitė-Vilkė is our guide to human society, which by definition is the aggregate of people living together in more or less ordered communities.  One week after COP27, which is the most important annual meeting of world leaders addressing the global climate crisis, we invite you to listen to a constructed dialogue between a biologist and a sociologist to find out how we got to where we are today and if changes are possible.  Authors: Kata Bitowt, Martyna Šulskutė  Folk song: Institute of Lithuanian Literature and Folklore  Full publication: https://nara.lt/en/articles-en/whats-so-scary-about-a-falling-tree  Support our work: https://contribee.com/nara