The boys get as spooky as they can with cellular automata, have a maths conversation about maths conversations and can't get past the fact that Brunnian and Borromean sound too similar. Odds and Evenings Twitter - https://twitter.com/OddsAndEvenings Website - http://www.oddsandevenings.com Topics discussed Zombies and Vampires The Maths of Conversations Brunnian Pumpkin Carving Show Notes Follow Up Maths Jam Annual Gathering Page The Shade (Alex's New Podcast) Maths From the Show Borromean Rings Brunnian Links (more generalised) Pochhammer's Countour A Classic Video on Brunnian Links (in the form of snakes), by Vi Hart Credits Hosted By Alaric - http://alaricstephen.com Alex - http://twitter.com/speakmouthwords Editing by Alex Following of the brief: bring halloween problems by Alaric Theme music by David Russell - https://youtube.com/DavidRussell323