EP #20: In this week's edition, Cam breaks down the highs and lows of the NFL conference championship games, offering his candid reactions to the matchups. Joining Cam in the studio is none other than Giants' defensive end, Kayvon Thibodeaux, who shares his journey from being labeled a rookie bust to a break out 11.5 sack season. He also delves into the intricacies of developing his pass rush techniques. Kayvon opens up about being among the first college athletes to benefit from NIL deals, and he sheds light on the challenges of managing large sums of money at a young age. Kayvon also discusses the nuances of stepping into a leadership role in just his second season in the league. Cam ends the show by addressing the latest news on the man convicted in the shooting death of former Saints player Will Smith. Cam reflects on the tragic incident that occurred in New Orleans in April 2016 following an altercation after a car crash and shares his thoughts on the developments surrounding the case. 00:00 - Start of show  00:11 - Cam teases what’s to come on the episode  00:48 Cam reacts to the conference championship matchups   3:24 start of Kayvon interview  4:19 Kayvon on second-year progress 5:57 Kayvon on building confidence with his pass rush moves  8:46 Kayvon’s reaction to the Conference Championship games  12:16 Kayvon reflecting on his development from his rookie year  16:15 Kayvon asks Cam if he’d rather get a 50 million dollar contract and a ring or a hundred million dollar contract with no ring   22:10 Kayvon on the experience of being one of the first to secure a NIL deal 24:22 Kayvon on lack of money management education in college 29:41 Kayvon and Cam on keeping up with the Jones’’ in the lockerroom  41:24 Kayvon on his world tour travels  33:33 Kayvon on taking on the leadership role early in his career 37:07 Kayvon on what he looks forward to in year 3  37:48 Kayvon’s full-circle moment  38:47 Kayvon on perfecting his craft 42:26 End of kayvon interview  43:26 Cam’s thoughts on the jury finding the man guilty of the manslaughter of former Saints Will Smith 48:29 End of show **Note: time codes are approximate The Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeart Radio. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.