Shortly after college, Jack Schott hit the road for two years to visit over 200 summer camps across the United States. He then co-founded a children’s sleepaway camp in upstate New York, Camp Stomping Ground (campstompingground.org), designed to inspire “radical empathy.” After co-directing Stomping Ground for many years (with Laura Kriegel) and consulting for other camps, Jack possesses a wealth of knowledge about the power and possibility of sleepaway camps. We discuss the unique magic that camps create, what kind of camps exist in the United States, how they promote self-directed learning (or don’t), accessibility and affordability, the vital role that camp counselors play in a young person’s life, and Jack’s personal favorites. Jack is also co-founder of The Summer Camp Society (thesummercampsociety.com), which offers training and consulting for camp leaders. To sign up for Not Back to School Camp, visit nbtsc.org. (Vermont campers: Enroll by April 30th!) Recorded on April 17, 2022, on the Camino de Santiago in Spain.