Fossil fuel executives are the bad guys of the climate change story, right? Companies like Exxon are infamous for undermining the science of global warming. But Mike Bennetts, CEO of giant petrol retailer Z Energy, is casting himself in a different role: climate activist. Well, kind of. In this launch episode of Stuff's new One Hot Minute podcast, Stuff's Climate Change editor Eloise Gibson looks into the paradox of an oil company boss who reckons everyone should actually be buying less of his company's product. The One Hot Minute podcast is a companion series to Stuff's One Hot Minute video series, in which climate-change changemakers are given just 60 seconds to deliver their big idea about climate change. Then in this podcast we dig deeper into that idea. To watch the videos, see www.stuff.co.nz/onehotminute. The series is part of Stuff's Forever Project.