In this episode, Jess connects with Donna and Alex, a couple from Florida who stand behind a blog called Swinging Through the Ages. Donna and Alex are Open Late listeners who reacted to Jess's stories when she was looking for exciting stories about how people opened up their relationships. They walk us through the beginning of their relationship and what led them to become swingers, finding out about the Desire Resort, and the upside-down pineapple symbol!  In this episode of Open Late: Becoming a poly-quad without knowing Remaining open after having kids  Visiting a clothing-optional resort Upside-down Pineapple and meeting life-long friends Connect with Donna and Alex: • Website: http://swingingthroughtheages.com Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com | jessicaesfandiary.com • Youtube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary   Quotes from the episode: 3:03 You are never too old to get a new lifestyle. – Donna 3:36 If a couple flips our switch and there is chemistry there, age is just a number and is not an issue. – Alex  7:03 We had a "foursome" friendship with our friends that organically developed into something else. – Donna 8:09 Over time, it moved from just sitting next to each other and holding hands to making out and having oral sex with each other's partners. - Alex 8:40 We were kinda poly-quad before we even knew the term. – Alex 11:53 The entire relationship, we were never full swap. It was always a soft swap. – Donna 13:06 Her gaydar was always off the charts. – Donna 14:49 Back in high school, If I would fantasize, it was always about girls. -Donna 16:01 Labels are interesting because sometimes they are confusing, but sometimes they can be empowering.– Jessica Esfandiary 17:37 I wouldn't say I am BI, but If a guy wants to touch or play with me, I won't jump out of bed and punch him. – Alex 23:56 You can be in the jacuzzi, and it's like a giant cocktail of naked people. – Alex 26:11 People you meet when you are naked become amazing friends. - Alex 29:16 You talk about grandkids, retirement, what you are doing here, as well as where you want to go for dinner and where you want to go to play. – Donna 30:31 If you can talk openly about your sexuality, and you realize the baseline is somewhere deep, then it is easy to develop such a meaningful friendship. – Jessica Esfandairy Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts    This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices