In this episode of the Open Late Podcast, Jess sits down with Robbie Garippo, a close friend of Jessica and Pasha, who has been part of their team and family for many years. They touch on the significance of therapy and how it has played a vital role in their lives. Robbie opens up about a hard breakup he endured, shedding light on the transformative impact it had on his personal growth. They delve into the realm of traumatic childhood experiences, exploring the complexities of giving and receiving love. They explore the dynamics of relationships, drawing a distinction between short-term casual encounters and long-term committed partnerships. They also talk about the concept of masculine and feminine energies within our bodies, as they reflect on the importance of understanding and balancing these aspects of ourselves. In this Episode of Open Late: The importance of therapy A transformative experience after a challenging breakup Unhealthy relationship with receiving love  Exploring masculine and feminine body energies An attractive and safe way to take charge Mentioned in the Episode: • Book: The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida Connect with Robbie Garippo: • Instagram: @robbefrancesco Connect with Jessica: • Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast • Website: openlatepodcast.com  • YouTube: Open Late Podcast • What's my relationship style? Take the Open Late Quiz • Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp • Open Late Dictionary 2:51 I'm a guy that wants the most out of life. Just wants to be happy, constantly working on myself. I'm a work in progress. - Robbie Garippo 6:05 Going through a breakup really made me look inward. I had no idea issues with my father, issues with my mother, and which was leading to issues in my every relationship in my life. - Robbie Garippo 10:07 Our bodies truly store anything that happens to you that is traumatic or that is unsettling, especially as a child, because you don't really have the proper tools to deal with it, or you've been taught that you can't express emotion. - Jessica Esfandiary 14:49 There's only so much that the body can also relearn or integrate in that moment. The brain needs time the same way that like as people, we can be active or resting and we actually need both and the rest is just as valuable because it's the integration. - Jessica Esfandiary 19:42 I can't really truly give my gift to my woman or the world unless I'm really standing in my divine masculinity. - Robbie Garippo 25:23 I'm finding it very empowering to myself because I'm stepping into these relationships fully, authentically me and unapologetically me and not like thinking about them, but I'm really thinking about me. And I've never done that before - Robbie Garippo 26:42 All have masculine and feminine inside of us and we can all play to those different energies, like I can embody a lot of my masculine side. - Jessica Esfandiary 27:28 Desire and chemistry is really the tension between polarity and like sameness. - Jessica Esfandiary 46:51 When you're frustrated, you get taken out of a very aligned, calm state and you get into an activated state where you are not your best self. And when we're speaking from that place, we're not speaking in an open hearted and clear way. We're speaking from hurt. -Jessica Esfandiary Take advantage of a 30% discount on Dr. Zhana's eligible courses with code "JESSICA", applied to the first payment only for offers with multiple payments or subscriptions. • Open Smarter Course The product I love who support this show: • Honey Pot Lube and Massage Oil OPENLATE20 • The Oh Club OPENLATE • Desire Resorts  This is a Sabbatical Jess Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices