Episodes
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Published 06/10/21
Welcome to the final episode of Ordinary Equality Season Two. We’ve covered the history of abortion, the highs and lows of Roe v. Wade, the secret abortion underground of the 70s, and even the way the long southern strategy played into the state of abortion access in this country. Kate and Jamia look towards the future of the abortion conversation: what language should we change going forward? How can we even start to dismantle the anti-choice movement? And what do we change on our side of...
Published 04/07/21
When the anti-choice movement couldn’t stop individuals from choosing to get an abortion, they turned to the next biggest roadblock-- the abortion providers themselves. Today, hosts Kate Kelly and Jamia Wilson are talking all about TRAP laws. How did the anti-choice movement work around Roe v. Wade? How did these laws create a systemic, legal attack on abortion access? And why are even more being passed today?
Published 03/31/21
In 1994, twelve Black women gathered together in a room and redefined the movement for reproductive freedom-- they focused on an intersectional freedom, built an entirely new framework, and called it Reproductive Justice. Today, hosts Jamia Wilson and Kate Kelly take us through the history of the Reproductive Justice movement and the work it’s doing in a system that has ignored the needs of Black women for far too long.
Published 03/24/21
The anti-choice movement, the Red south, and the partisan divide on abortion access -- none of these are a coincidence. In fact, they’re all components of an organized campaign to make morality the backbone of the Republican party. Today, hosts Kate Kelly and Jamia Wilson trace the history of the Long Southern Strategy.
Published 03/17/21
We made it folks--this week, we’re talking about that landmark 1973 case, Roe v. Wade. Hosts Jamia Wilson and Kate Kelly walk through Roe from beginning to end, and discover why this case is still affecting the way we talk about abortion, 48 years later.
Published 03/10/21
Every time we talk about abortion, we destroy stigma by normalizing this common medical procedure. We're taking a break from our usual lineup this week to share some abortion stories from listeners and guests. You'll hear from a legendary human rights lawyer, an OBGYN, a former Mormon, and a non-binary storyteller. Tune in to hear about their experiences!
Published 03/03/21
In 1962, Sherri Chessen’s abortion story gained international attention and helped flip the script on abortion in the public eye -- but her story was far from universal. This week, Kate and Jamia talk about pre-Roe abortion access, from underground collectives like Jane, to the community organizations still working to provide access to reproductive care today.
Published 02/24/21
Pro-choice, or pro-life -- secular, or religious. Or is it that simple? Why do we rely on the teachings of the Catholic Church in a country with so much religious diversity? How were arguments of faith politicized by the Religious Right? And how can we reconcile faith and reproductive justice today? Hosts Kate Kelly and Jamia Wilson are here to talk through the long, complex history of religion and abortion in the USA.
Published 02/17/21
The lasting effects of this country’s long history with colonialism and slavery impact every part of our lives--including modern day debates about abortion access and reproductive justice. In this episode, Kate and Jamia recruit experts to explain the history of reproductive coercion in the domestic slave breeding industry and the sexist, racist systems at play today.
Published 02/10/21
We’re taking this back to the beginning. Kate and Jamia trace the history of abortion access all the way back to ancient and colonial history. How did women control their fertility before modern medicine? And how was that control threatened? Attempts to suppress abortion are more recent than you think, and--you guessed it--are also attempts to suppress women’s rights.
Published 02/03/21
Family secrets, Christian pop, and the ERA. Women’s reproductive rights have been a divisive topic for over a century, and abortion is often used as ammo against the Equal Rights Amendment. Hosts Kate Kelly and Jamia Wilson kick off this season by talking about their personal connections to reproductive choice and religion.
Published 01/27/21
In 2021, abortion access is still in the news; from our founding, the conversation around reproductive rights has been one of the most contentious political debates in America. This history is one that combines political, religious, and social forces, layered with systemic racism and misogyny. From Wonder Media Network, co-hosts Kate Kelly and Jamia Wilson unpack this rich history from the views of colonial America, to seminal Supreme Court case Roe v. Wade, all the way to the present day.
Published 01/20/21
Kate Kelly is back for season two of Ordinary Equality. This time, she's being joined by a co-host you'll recognize from her great insight on season one -- Jamia Wilson, writer and feminist activist. Kate and Jamia are taking aim at another story centered on women's fundamental constitutional rights: abortion. But first, what has happened with the ERA since season one wrapped? Kate and Jamia are here to catch you up.
Published 10/27/20
A special preview of WMN's new show, She Votes! 100 years ago, the 19th amendment was ratified. But the fight for the right to vote began long before then, and continues even today. Introducing She Votes!, a new podcast from Wonder Media Network about the complex history of the women's suffrage movement, hosted by award-winning journalists Lynn Sherr and Ellen Goodman.
Published 08/10/20
In this special episode, listen to host Kate Kelly's full interview with writer and LGBTQ advocate, Charlotte Clymer. They discuss the ERA's impact on transgender rights and the need for all genders to come together in the fight to ratify.
Published 04/28/20
Get your ticket now for Podapalooza! It's a podcast festival where all the proceeds are going to help those most in need right now. We'll be dropping a special episode of Ordinary Equality -- an extended cut interview of one of your favorite guests this season.
Published 04/21/20
In this season finale, we’re looking ahead. Kate talks to familiar voices like Alyssa Milano and Danica Roem and a leader of the next generation of ERA advocates. They discuss what the future of the Amendment will look like — and why you should care. After all, this is just the beginning of a whole new era of gender equality.
Published 04/07/20
After Nevada's ratification, two more states followed suit. Kate speaks to politicians on the front lines of those victories. Plus she talks to federal leaders who are pushing legislation to get rid of the pesky deadline, once and for all.
Published 03/31/20
The ERA is back with a vengeance. That's thanks to legislators who made it their mission to reignite the fight in state legislatures and activists who spread the word. This week, Kate talks with the woman who got things started in Nevada, Senator Pat Spearman. She also speaks with actor Alyssa Milano and LGBTQ activist Charlotte Clymer about the ERA, #MeToo, and the modern resurgence of the women’s movement more broadly.
Published 03/24/20
The ERA lay dormant until one man turned a C-grade paper into a new life goal. Kate speaks with Gregory Watson, the man responsible for ratifying the 27th Amendment -- thereby igniting a new push for the ERA.
Published 03/17/20
Let's zoom out for a more global perspective: How does the U.S. Constitution measure up?
Published 03/10/20
Time didn’t stop when the deadline came and went. What happened in the interim? Let’s talk about the doctrine that was forged after the Amendment's defeat: the "De facto ERA" -- and the woman who had an outsized impact on its creation, RBG.
Published 03/03/20
There's a lot happening with the ERA in 2020. We’re taking a break from history to talk about the latest ERA news.
Published 02/25/20
What went wrong? Kate examines the movement that brought the ERA down and one woman who had an outsized impact: Phyllis Schlafly.
Published 02/18/20