Chris is joined by Rad Drew, who'll be a presenter at next month's Out of Longwood in Kennett Square, Pennsylvania.  Rad will be teaching different ways to photograph flowers using your phone, and how to use the selfie camera to capture unique perspectives. In his chat with Chris, Rad discusses how to decide between shooting on a phone versus a traditional camera, what type of phone captures the best photographs, and his workflow when capturing on a phone. Rad is also experienced with the post-processing software Topaz as well as infrared photography, so he shares tips on both. As promised on the show, here's a link to Cogitap's Slow Shutter Cam app (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/slow-shutter-cam/id357404131) recommended by Rad. Visit Rad online by going to http://www.RadDrewPhotography.com. To try Topaz, use Rad's discount code Rad15 for 15% off any Topaz product.