“The investment management business actually looks a lot more like every other business, where there's products, there's marketing, and there's distribution, and you have to be outstanding at all three of those things in order to succeed in this business.” – Robert Cantwell, Founder and CIO of Compound Kings Chapters (00:02:23) Introduction (00:04:53) Defining a compounder (growth, profitability, high ROIC) (00:06:22) Investing in challenging markets (00:14:26) Robert’s thoughts on the rise of active management (00:17:28) Why so much money is still in mutual funds (00:19:33) Thematic ETFs and where they can go wrong (00:39:05) Why investing in public markets is so challenging (00:46:09) Top three positions in Compound Kings today: Meta, ServiceNow, and Adyen (01:05:35) What it’s like to build an ETF business Explore the episode notes. Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/129. About Robert Cantrell and Compound Kings. Robert Cantwell is the Founder of Upholdings and Portfolio Manager of Compound Kings, which is an exchange-traded fund focused on investing in companies often called compounders. Compounders are typically profitable, growing, and generate very high returns on invest capital (ROIC). Watch and listen. Watch this episode on YouTube Find this episode in your favorite podcast app Get new episodes delivered via email Brought to you by HVMN. With Ketone-IQ, fuel your best anytime with a boost of awesome-feeling energy and clarity. Unlock the power of nature's superfuel—no fasting or keto diet required. Advertise with Outliers and reach our global community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices