How do you make art you can’t see? Kinderling kids – Pip and Lottie – find out this and more when they meet up with a very special artist called Ross Manning. Ross is a sound artist who turns everyday objects - like cans, rocks and even fans - into instruments that make music like you’ve never heard before. But why? As a way to explore humanity’s ongoing and increasingly complex relationship with technology. In this episode, Ross answers the kids’ big art questions like; “When is having a big imagination better than knowledge”? And “Why is breaking the rules sometimes okay”? Listen now to Outside The Lines with Ross Manning. For more kid-friendly art tips (from more inspirational artists) download the Kinderling App or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Outside the Lines is a Kinderling co-production with the Queensland Art Gallery and Gallery of Modern Art’s Children’s Art Centre. This production was possible thanks to the generous support of the Neilson Foundation. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.