We're bringing back some of our favorite, most inspiring episodes in the lead up to the launch of Season 3. In this episode from our first season, Working Not Working co-founder Justin Gignac welcomes artists Shantell Martin and Ivan Cash. If you're looking for a fresh perspective on your work and life this conversation will inspire you. Both Shantell and Ivan create work that focuses on human connection. Helping us put down our devices and our personas and live in the present. The resulting conversation is especially lively and insightful, as it shifts from creative foundations to the complex ideas of sharing and spontaneity and connection, to how artists can challenge an overreliance on technology both professionally and personally.