How can developing countries ever develop if so many of their doctors, nurses and engineers are moving abroad seeking higher pay? This asymmetric movement of skilled workers is called 'brain drain' and has spurred intense debate in recent years.  On this podcast, Zilun talks to Kelsi and Haley, lead researchers from Stanford's Walter H. Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center about their groundbreaking book project 'Talent Flows'. Exploring the problems and potential benefits of 'Brain Drain', the conversation unveils a surprising fact. Brain drain can be beneficial to both countries if policy makers create the right environment at home. This point is explored with case studies from India and China.