Brian's guest this week is epic fantasy author Evan Winter. Evan is a former filmmaker whose first novel Rage of Dragons was named as one of Time Magazine's 100 best fantasy books of all time in 2020. The third book in his Burning series is out in 2023. Evan and Brian talk about his experiences with music videos, the side work of being a creative professional that distracts us from actually creating, how his background in marketing helped him launch his first book, and the psychological toll our work can take on us. Check out Evan on Twitter or his website. Find Brian at his website, on Twitter and Instagram, or find his books on Amazon, direct from his bookstore, or wherever books are sold! Don't forget to support the show on Patreon, or pick up some swag on Redbubble. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.