Adele chats with expert Dr Ellen Mather about ancient aves from Australia, and her work on extinct eagles and vultures from the Pleistocene period!   We also touch on the pecking order of scavenging birds, crawling through caves to collect fossils, the hunting tactics of avian apex predators and how straighter wing bones let an animal soar above the competition. This episode of Pals in Paleo uses a sound effect that requires attribution. It can be found at this link: https://freesound.org/people/johnnythesalesman/sounds/423291/ This episode is brought to you by Dinosaur Trips! Explore the world and see the best museums, meet experts and even dig up real dinosaurs. For more info visit dinosaurtrips.com and email [email protected] about the Badlands and Beyond Trip. Dinosaur Trips It's been 66 million years. Why wait any longer? Join an upcoming trip! Pals in Palaeo @palsinpalaeo Host: Adele Pentland @palaeodel Online Store Transcripts The Pals in Palaeo Cover Art Jenny Zhao Design @jennyzdesign Crumpet Club House@crumpetclubhouse The Pals in Palaeo Theme Music Hello Kelly @hellokellymusic Podcast Producer + Editor Jean-César Puechmarin @cesar_on_safari Podcast Editor François "Francy" Goudreault @hellofrancy