In this special episode, host Ben Adair is joined by Dr. Julia Marcus from the Department of Population Medicine at Harvard Medical School to speak about her recently published article in The Atlantic called, "Quarantine Fatigue is Real" You can read the article here: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/quarantine-fatigue-real-and-shaming-people-wont-help/611482/ The two discuss how "abstinence-only" health policies ascribed during the HIV epidemic can teach us how to potentially create a risk prevention approach to Coronavirus and why shaming never has the intended outcome. If you have thoughts or questions regarding what you heard in this episode or general anxieties about reopening we want to hear them! You can text or leave us a voicemail at: 858-255-1770 DISCLAIMER: Listening to a podcast is not a substitute for getting real help. The show is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical and/or mental health advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified mental health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition or mental health needs. And if you really need help now: Text the Crisis Text Line: text the word HOME to 741-751 1-800-Life-Net if you want or need to talk to someone right now. Pandemic Check In is produced by Western Sound and Brooklyn Minds.