In this episode, Nina sits down with long-time friend and award winning hairdresser Ira Pope Sage. They talk about everything, from how Ira became a hairdresser, to his first years as an educator, to navigating his fears and helping others navigate theirs as an educator, to what creates an awesome salon or education experience, to the daily rituals that help Ira stay healthy, grounded and strong. This is a must listen episode for everyone in the salon industry, there are so many gems Ira shared to help you. You can find Ira and his tour dates on the socials here, and find Passion Squared on the web here, and on the socials here. Thank you Ira for being our special guest, we LOVE you! And thank YOU for listening!