Samara chats with the president of NARAL Pro Choice America about what public speaking and leadership even mean (hello, AOC), how to find hope in a dystopia, and what it is to know our history—her new book tells the story of the politicization of abortion, and how WE can change the narrative.  Host: Samara Bay Executive producers: Catherine Burt Cantin & Mark Cantin, Double Vision doublevisionprojects.com Producers: Samara Bay, Sophie Lichterman and the iHeart team Theme music: Mark Cantin Ilyse on IG: @ilyseh NARAL on IG: @prochoiceamerica   Buy The Lie That Binds: barnesandnoble.com/w/the-lie-that-binds-ilyse-hogue/1137333853?ean=9781947492509   More of Ayanna Pressley’s video: theglowup.theroot.com/exclusive-rep-ayanna-pressley-reveals-beautiful-bald-1841039847   Email us at [email protected] – where do you need more permission?   And of course, please pass this along to anyone who could use it. If you’re feeling extra spicy, we’d be grateful if you left us a review or rated us on Apple Podcasts or the iHeartRadio app, and subscribed for your weekly dose of Permission to Speak :) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://news.iheart.com/podcast-advertisers