Thomas is joined by Mallika Dutt, a longtime advocate for equity and well-being for people and the planet, and the founder of the non-profit organizations INTER-CONNECTED, Breakthrough, and Sakhi. They discuss the pivotal moments in Mallika’s life that brought the concepts of sacredness, interdependence, and interconnectedness into her activism. Mallika shares her commitment to the collective liberation of all beings on this planet, and how anchoring ourselves to that commitment can move us out of old paradigms and enable us to create new, restorative patterns in our relationships and in the larger world. She and Thomas explore Mallika’s personal path to understanding our fundamental oneness, and methods we can all use to find greater self-acceptance, mediate conflict, address harm, and heal trauma in a restorative and grounded way. Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 05:47 Putting the sacred in activism 13:46 Breaking the triangle of disempowerment 19:43 Collective liberation and how to get there 22:01 Interconnectedness as an awareness of our role in the world 26:18 Navigating conflict with presencing 29:49 The ability to hold complexity in safe spaces 33:05 The power of rituals 40:07 Daily practices for interconnectedness Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Preorder Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” and get free gifts when you follow the steps in the link below: 👉 attunedbook.com ✨ Join us for the 2023 Collective Trauma Summit - a free, online gathering to advance understanding, inspire dialogue, and explore the potential for healing personal, intergenerational, and collective trauma. The Collective Trauma Summit is convened annually by Thomas Hübl and includes expert presentations, talks, poetry readings, movement sessions, guided meditations, and panel discussions from 60+ prominent thought leaders covering a diverse range of disciplines. Learn more about the Summit: 👉 collectivetraumasummit.com