Thomas is joined by Senior Lecturer in the MIT Management Sloan School, and the Founding Chair of the Presencing Institute, Otto Scharmer, and facilitator, systems change leader, intrapreneur, and strategist, Antoinette Klatzky. They discuss what Otto calls the “architectures of connection”-- the social systems and structures that can either be extractive and perpetuate violence and trauma, or be open and regenerative and enable healing. Thomas, Antionette, and Otto also explore how they’ve taken differing paths to the same conclusion; that all societies need collective healing spaces where intense emotions and experiences can be witnessed and creative inspiration for the future can emerge. Key Points: 00:00 Introduction 01:54 Healing as staying heart-connected 04:24 The lack of societal architectures for healing spaces 10:02 Cultivating our inner soil for regeneration 15:42 Social systems and the root of structural violence 21:55 Awareness of the social field 26:15 The presence of the circle being and how it works 35:10 The impact of acknowledging pain and trauma 39:37 The enabling conditions for healing   Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Thomas Hübl’s new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” is out now! Find a copy at your local bookseller, or visit: 👉 attunedbook.com ✨ Join us for the 2023 Collective Trauma Summit - a free, online gathering to advance understanding, inspire dialogue, and explore the potential for healing personal, intergenerational, and collective trauma. The Collective Trauma Summit is convened annually by Thomas Hübl and includes expert presentations, talks, poetry readings, movement sessions, guided meditations, and panel discussions from 60+ prominent thought leaders covering a diverse range of disciplines. Learn more about the Summit: 👉 collectivetraumasummit.com Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. Learn more at thomashuebl.com