In this conversation, I discuss Canadian and Japanese policy in the Indo-Pacific with Stephen Nagy. We discuss where Canada fits in the region, the perils of hostage diplomacy, why Canada needs to further align with other liberal democracies, the Arctic as a new space for geopolitical contest, Canada and Australia’s shared ‘China paradox’, how Ottawa should deal with the superpower in a nuanced way, whether Japan is serious about revising its Taiwan policy, what’s at stake for Tokyo in the region, the failures of Moon Jae-in’s sunshine policy, why South Koreans now dislike China more than Japan, how to prevent war in the West Pacific, and many more topics. You can listen to the episode right away in the audio player embedded above, or right below it you can click “Listen in podcast app” — which will connect you to the show’s feed. Alternatively, you can click the icons below to listen to it on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.  If you enjoy this conversation and would like to help the show, leaving us a 5-star rating and review on Apple Podcasts is the easiest way to do so. To give us a review, just go to Policy People on Apple Podcasts and hit ‘Write a Review’. Stephen Nagy is a Visiting Fellow at the Japan Institute for International Affairs and Fellow at Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Stephen is also a Senior Associate Professor at the Department of Politics and International Studies at International Christian University, Tokyo and the Governor of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce Japan. He regularly publishes in outlets such as the Japan Times, Nikkei Asian Review, Geopolitical Monitor, The National Interest and the Journal of Indo-Pacific Affairs. Originally from Calgary, he has been in East Asia for almost decades, and speaks multiple languages. He is now based in Tokyo. You can follow Stephen on LinkedIn or follow him on Twitter at the handle @nagystephen1. Get on the email list at policypeople.substack.com