In this two-part conversation, I discuss civilizationalism as a new force in global politics with Anvesh Jain. Part 1 covers the Western half of Eurasia — the West and Russia, while Part 2 covers the Eastern half of Eurasia — India and China. In Part 1 we discuss the rise of civilizationalism across the world, civilizationalists as alternative intellectuals, the ignorance of elites on the movement’s appeal, Russia as a Eurasian civilization, whether Russia is the true inheritor of the Roman empire, why Western civilizationalists admire Russian conservatism today, whether civilizations threaten the principle of equality in international relations, why ‘Western civilization’ is shared among many states, the goal of civilizationalism, its cyclical timespans, and many more topics. You can see the visual overlay that follows our conversation on YouTube. Some episodes are posted as videos before coming out in the podcast feed, so if you want to access new content early, be sure to subscribe to the channel. You can listen to the episode right away in the audio player embedded above, or right below it you can click “Listen in podcast app” — which will connect you to the show’s feed. Alternatively, you can click the icons below to get it on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or Google Podcasts. If you enjoy this conversation and would like to help the show, leaving us a 5-star rating and review on Apple Podcasts is the easiest way to do so. To give us a review, just go to Policy People on Apple Podcasts and hit ‘Write a Review’. Anvesh Jain is an international affairs analyst and a JD candidate at the University of Ottawa. He recently published a paper titled “Comparing Civilization-State Models: China, Russia, India” in the peer-reviewed Journal of Indo-Pacific Affairs and has also published in the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, the Stimson Center, The Hill Times, and the Mackenzie Institute, among other outlets. Anvesh is part of the NATO Association of Canada and is an emerging scholar at the Network for Strategic Analysis at Queen’s University. You can connect with him on LinkedIn or discover more of his work at his website, anveshjain.com Get on the email list at policypeople.substack.com