.. "Our ability to be able to research things from other animals points of view... is such a great way to pop out of ourselves a bit and see things a little more objectively and bring out that alien anthropologist point of view. It´s something scientists do well, comedians do well and psychedelics do well..." Shane Mauss is a comedian, podcaster, science and psychedelic enthusiast and modern day explorer of human nature. I´ve followed Shane´s wide-ranging corpus of material for some years now and was so happy to finally get the opportunity to talk on the podcast. Naturally, the discussion was a light-hearted probe into the strangeness and beauty of science and human experience, alongside ways to be serious about not getting too caught up in what we´ve decided reality looks like. Shane is well known known for his vivid and humorous tales of the psychedelic realm - which we talk about in terms of nuance, rather than dogmatism - as well as ideas for handling what we´re presented with in daily life. Comics have a special way of communicating important ideas to wider audiences. Science included. Something mainstream media, politics, academia and much of pop-culture simply cannot do so well at all. If you´re at all fed up with being told how to do things this way or that and simply want to listen to someone who as explored a LOT of territory, you´ll dig this episode. It was one of our favourites so far. Do check out Shane´s Here We Are Podcast as well as his new one with Ramin Nazer Mind Under Matter and his movie Psychonautics.  Following the interview, DJ & I continue on with some thoughts and ideas that came to mind so be sure to stick it out to the end!  For those interested in joining the next Emptiness Project retreat (hopefully later in 2021 and/or 2022 in the US, Peru & Europe) please make sure to follow us and join our mailing list for the latest news.  Enjoy the episode and make sure to follow us on IG for updates on new projects. Thanks for your support and if you could leave a review and share the podcast with your friends that would be a huge help. Stay safe and share your experiences. Follow Shane on Instagram Shane´s website for other goodness shanemauss.com Watch Shane´s movie Psychonautics - A Comic´s Exploration of Psychedelics Follow DJ on Instagram Intro music: Akira The Don Outro music: Epidemic Sound Listen and support the Primal Movers Podcast on the usual platforms Primal Movers YouTube channel - Video episodes Support the show (https://www.paypal.me/TomMountjoy)