GraphQL is one of the biggest API enablers in software development, but just how complicated can things be? Tanmai Gopal – Hasura’s CEO extraordinaire – talks with Jason and Patrick about how the secret sauce gets made. They dive deeply from how APIs function to having them managed in practice – among several other topic, making this a must-listen episode.    00:01:19 Introductions 00:01:48 Tanmai’s late start in programming 00:05:48 Plinko 00:13:06 Coursera 00:23:28 The question of API development 00:30:30 API layer functionality 00:34:58 How Hasura leverages JSON 00:39:08 GraphQL 00:42:49 Worse than an API call 00:49:15 The potential REST minefield 00:53:41 JSON Web Tokens 01:11:34 Scaling writes 01:15:17 Careers with Hasura 01:22:35 Farewells Resources mentioned in this episode: Join the Programming Throwdown Patreon community today: https://www.patreon.com/programmingthrowdown?ty=h   Subscribe to the podcast on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@programmingthrowdown4793 Links:  Tanmai Gopal:  Website: https://hasura.io/blog/@tanmaig/  Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanmaig/  Twitter: https://twitter.com/tanmaigo  Github: https://github.com/coco98  Hasura:  Website: https://hasura.io/  Careers: https://hasura.io/careers/  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HasuraHQ  Github: https://github.com/hasura  Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hasura  Others:  Good Strategy, Bad Strategy (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Good-Strategy-Bad-Strategy-audiobook/dp/B07R6XQ8YP  Modern Application Development (IIT Madras, archived): https://archive.nptel.ac.in/courses/106/106/106106156/ If you’ve enjoyed this episode, you can listen to more on Programming Throwdown’s website: https://www.programmingthrowdown.com/   Reach out to us via email: [email protected]   You can also follow Programming Throwdown on  Facebook | Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Player.FM | Youtube   Join the discussion on our Discord Help support Programming Throwdown through our Patreon ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★