Intro topic: Jogging Metrics News/Links: Unholy LLM https://huggingface.co/Undi95/Unholy-v1-12L-13B  The reverse red herring  https://www.blameless.com/blog/the-reverse-red-herring The "ens–tification" of TikTok https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/  Response letter to Godot is not the new Unity https://sampruden.github.io/posts/godot-is-not-the-new-unity/ https://gist.github.com/reduz/cb05fe96079e46785f08a79ec3b0ef21 Book of the Show Patrick: Math Games with Bad Drawings by Ben Orlin https://amzn.to/48qlg9A Jason:  The Invisible Hook: The Hidden Economics of Pirates https://amzn.to/3LChBff Patreon Plug https://www.patreon.com/programmingthrowdown?ty=h Tool of the Show Patrick: Factorio (Desktop Game) Jason:AI Hero (iOS and Android) Topic: Desktop user interfaces What is a user interface? Web and Mobile UI toolkits Desktop options Qt Cross platform, custom UI elements Qt creator, code generator WxWidgets Cross platform, uses native UI elements  WxFormDesigner, code generation Can look different on different operating systems Electron Local nodejs webserver Html/JavaScript technology Requires interprocess communication to use other languages   Jupyter notebooks Mathematica-like notebook  Not for distribution  StreamlitPython to web compiler Game EnginesUnity, Godot, Unreal Tips for building desktop UI UI is slow (startup time, interaction time) Separate the UI from the engine & business logic ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★