Alli Logout is a Texas-raised, NOLA-based punk musician (Special Interest, Lassie) and radical filmmaker (Lucid Noon, Sunset Blush). Alli works to increase the representation of their community in media, in addition to making the tools to create that media more accessible. Simply, Alli is creating their own world with the people they love. But we all know it isn't that simple. In episode one, we interviewed the promoter of the punk festival This Is Austin Not That Great. We conducted this interview for episode two during that fest, on the roof of a parking garage in downtown Austin, right after Alli's band Lassie played. We spoke about creating community/family and the happiness (and lack thereof) that can come with that, DIY filmmaking, privilege at a punk festival, marketing and tokenizing of black and queer bodies, presenting your message on your own terms, and the pressures of being visible and loud with your art. **CW brief discussion of suicide in the episode**  Become a supporter of this podcast: https://anchor.fm/protest-and-survive/support This podcast is sponsored by Anchor