Juliette Lyons-Thomas, PhD, works on a large-scale assessment program at Educational Testing Service (ETS), which is the world's largest private nonprofit educational testing and assessment organization. Her research interests include the use of think aloud protocols for validation of assessments of complex thinking, policy-related issues in education, and issues related to cross-cultural and cross-lingual assessment. She received her B.Sc (Psychology) from McGill University, her M.A. (Educational Psychology, specializing in Psychological Measurement and Evaluation) from NYU, her Ph.D. from the Measurement, Evaluation, and Research Methodology program at the University of British Columbia. She completed her postdoctoral fellowship at Teachers College, Columbia University and has previously worked at the Regents Research Fund and the New York State Education Department.  In this episode, we cover Juliette's decision to major in psychology, her early academic struggles and how they shaped her, educational psychology, what measurement is and why it's important, how measurement applies to education policy, graduate school application tips, reaching out to professors, the future of and problems with standardized tests, how to make tests more equitable, and more! To submit questions for future speakers and to get even more career tips, follow @psych_mic on Instagram and visit psychmic.com to sign up for the newsletter. Music by: Adam Fine