Henry Chung, M.D., (Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, New York City) joins Dr. Dixon and Dr. Berezin to discuss the differences between the collaborative care model and the colocation model, and the impact on Medicaid costs and utilization, for the treatment of patients with depression. Chung interview [00:58] A bridge between clinical and research work [02:32] The colocation model and the collaborative care model [03:44] What populations are you working with? [07:21] Differences in service utilization and cost [10:25] Methodology [10:47] Concentration on depression instead of other psychiatric disorders [13:59] Findings [15:11] Choosing between models [20:21] Impact of COVID [24:06] Final thoughts [28:21] Transcript   Subscribe to the podcast here. Check out Editor's Choice, a set of curated collections from the rich resource of articles published in the journal. Sign up to receive notification of new Editor's Choice collections. Browse other articles on our website. Be sure to let your colleagues know about the podcast, and please rate and review it wherever you listen to it. Listen to other podcasts produced by the American Psychiatric Association. Follow the journal on Twitter. E-mail us at [email protected]