This episode was recorded during the PT MEAL Podcast Live! I invited Asst. Prof. Marvin Zotomayor back on the show to talk about motivation and the lack of it in higher education and in life. Here, Marvin talked about how unmotivated and demotivated ignite their motivation through learning, unlearning, and relearning, outcomes-based education, and the 5 principles of motivating demotivated and unmotivated students. If you feel lost and unsure, this might be the episode for you! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/ptmealpodcast/support