Recording Date: Jan 16, 02024 Hosts: Tony Hansmann && Jesse Alford Guest: Bryon Kroger LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryon-kroger/recent-activity/all/ Brian Kroger is the founder and CEO of Rise8.us. A consultancy inspired by the Pivotal Model. Bryon works in the DOD and calls himself a bureaucracy hacker. In the episode, he points out that once you understand how the bureaucracy is “programmed,” you can often get a lot further than you can in private industry.  Listen through to all the way! Tony && Jesse --- Rise8 Company Description Rise8 delivers software for Critical Missions. We are revolutionizing the way government agencies build, deploy, and utilize critical software.    Rise8 is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) with headquarters in Tampa, FL, and a fully-remote workforce. Purpose Drive relentless progress. We own relentless progress. We can always do better. The moment we stop thinking that, the moment we stop pushing for a better future - bad things happen. Promise Critical outcomes in prod (real, rapid, reliable). Logo The Rise8 logo emphasizes the number 8 and is a symbol of the paired relationship we practice with our clients at every level of operation. The slash within the 8 is a 78-degree angle as a nod to the Japanese proverb that inspired our name: “Fall seven, rise eight.”