Part 2 of our conversation about Postpartum in a Pandemic, but this episode we have psychologist, licensed marriage and family therapist, and ex-wife to the infamous Wolf of Wall Street, Dr. Nadine Macaluso on to discuss bonds and attachment, along with post part blues. Some mothers bond with their babies right away, and some don't. Both are normal--but we have to keep normalizing PPD and anxiety so amazing new mamas don't feel alone in their dark feelings. Dr. Gator and Cerina Vincent also discuss the importance of THERAPY! Dr. Nae is beautiful and brilliant and truly turned her pain into power and has some fabulous tips on therapy as well as the importance of touch and connection with infants to create secure attachment.