Real STUFF hits some raw edges in this episode, with Hunter Johnson interviewing one of Australia's most free-speaking mental health experts, Dr Zac Seidler. Debunking a tonne of speculations and hypotheses on men's mental health, this conversation cuts to the bone with everyday ways to check in on ourselves and our mates. Amidst loads of ridiculous teenage references and hilarious accounts of growing up anxious, there is a trigger warning. Hunter and Zac touch on suicide, depression and anxiety to bring new personal truths to these heavy topics. Dr Zac says men aren't dying because they don't open up, rather, we have a system that shuts them down. Dr Zac is currently Director of Mental Health Training at Movember and Senior Research Fellow with Orygen at the University of Melbourne. No ivory towers. No judgement. Just honest acknowledgement that we are all on a daily, dynamic journey when it comes to our mental health. Thanks for walking it with us! In this episode, get real insights on Real STUFF like this: "There's a discussion in society that goes "thank God for the next generation". And I wholeheartedly agree, but I don't want to be handing them the shit show that we are existing in at the moment." "I will climb down the ladder with you, but I won't go all the way to the bottom and I will hold my arm out and I will pull you back up. You know, and I think too many guys go all the way down and then you're f*****g sinking in the mud. You will hold on to the ladder and I will hold on to you." "​​We've done this research at Movember that shows over 40% of guys regret telling anyone about their mental health, wow, for a big stat, it's huge. It's huge." Learn more about Zac at www.zacseidler.com Find Zac on socials: Twitter: https://twitter.com/zacseidler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-zac-seidler-50379a66/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zacseidler/