The idea of combat being some rite of proving is neither new, nor something to be trivialized. Dreams of glory, the horrors of war, cynicism towards honor, and a demystification as pseudo-enlightenment all appear in both literature and the stories we tell ourselves and each other. In this conversation with Nic Magjack3r, he tells the story of his first gunfight, beginning long before with the years of training, some institutionally provided, and much done of his own volition, as well as the "fallout" after surviving a shootout. In the conversation, we consider how he was perceived both before and after shots were fired at him, and how different professions and personalities reacted to that event. Follow Nic on Instagram at: @the_magjack3r23 Support the REDACTED Culture Cast at redactedculture.locals.com SSP and boutique products at redactedllc.com Follow us on Instagram at @redactedllc