Tony Lilios always imagined himself as a father. When he was younger, the picture he had in head included a wife, a few kids, and a white picket fence. Then he came out as gay and had to totally re-imagine his vision for family. It took him almost 20 years, but Tony finally created a family that’s better than he ever could have dreamed. And he couldn’t have done it without the help of two very special women. – The episode transcript can be found here.  _ Connect with us:  EMAIL: [email protected]. WEBSITEINSTAGRAMTIK TOK _ Subscribe to our Substack if you want a monthly newsletter about all things refamulating. We share resources for people refamulating, upcoming events and links to other podcasts/articles/books that discuss refamulating topics.  _ Our team  Host: Julia Winston Producer: Claire McInerny  Manager of Engagement: Grace Barry Audio Engineer: Josh Gilbert Theme Music: Luke Top – We are a member of the Feelings and Co network.    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.