In this episode, we sit down with Rev. Ryan Swale, pastor of Immanuel URC in Jordan, Ontario, to discuss his dissertation, The Imprecatory Pastor: A Practical Theology of the Imprecatory Psalms. Swale challenges the modern church to reconsider the often-overlooked imprecatory psalms, which call for divine justice upon enemies. He argues that these psalms are not only permissible for Christians to use but are essential for pastoral ministry. Grounded in the character of God and rooted in biblical promises, Swale shows how these prayers for justice play a vital role in counseling, preaching, prayer, and worship. Swale explains the theological foundations of imprecatory psalms, demonstrating how both the Old and New Testaments affirm their use. He also explores practical applications for pastors, including how imprecatory psalms can be employed in “liturgical warfare,” apologetics, and pastoral counseling. Swale urges pastors to embrace these psalms as powerful tools for confronting evil and injustice, ultimately leading the church in glorifying God’s justice. Join us as we explore the biblical and pastoral importance of imprecatory psalms and their role in faithfully navigating a fallen world. Tune in to learn more about the powerful place of imprecatory psalms in Christian life and ministry. 00:07 Introduction 05:13 Choosing the Imprecatory Psalms as a DMin Dissertation Topic 11:25 What Is an Imprecatory Psalm? 14:17 Imprecations in Light of Genesis 3:15 23:03 Imprecatory Psalms and the New Testament 38:27 Imprecatory Psalms in Corporate Worship 45:30 The Judgment of God upon Christ for His People 48:21 Psalms for the Age of Rage 53:44 Suggestions for Beginning to Use the Imprecatory Psalms 57:43 Conclusion