Ollie Lovell is a teacher, author and podcaster based in Melbourne, Australia, and the host of the Education Research Reading Room (ERRR) podcast. In summer 2022, Ollie visited the UK on a whirlwind tour of three fascinatingly different educational institutions: Michaela School in North London, often described as the strictest school in the country; XP School in Doncaster, which places great emphasis on pastoral care, beautiful work and expeditionary learning; and the Self-Managed Learning College in Brighton, where the students (age 9-16) literally manage their own learning - 100% of the time. In this conversation, we explore Ollie's reflections on his visits to Michaela, XP and SMLC. LINKS: ERRR podcast: https://soundcloud.com/ollielovell Ollie's website: https://www.ollielovell.com/ Michaela: https://michaela.education/ SMLC: https://smlcollege.org.uk/ XP: https://xpschool.org/ The Rethinking Ed online conference (88 videos): https://www.rethinking-ed.org/reconf22 Rethinking Education Mighty Network: https://rethinking-education.mn.co James on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RethinkingJames Rethinking Ed Insta: https://www.instagram.com/rethinking.education/ James on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-mannion/ Become a patron: www.patreon.com/repod Buy me a coffee: www.buymeacoffee.com/repod The Rethinking Education podcast is hosted and produced by Dr James Mannion. You can contact him at www.rethinking-ed.org/contact, or via @RethinkingJames on Twitter.