War hero. Jungle expert. Bray Van Der Fräed was on the front lines of the Rhodesian conflict. He saved many people’s lives and took them too… A controversial and inspiring figure in equal measure, he joins Rick Fiddler for a fascinating exchange on this episode of Conversation.  Executive Produced by Stephanie Yellwitz. Engineered by Adam Reed. Theme and music composed by Trees Mist Productions. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.