Olivia Rodrigo and Alanis Morissette might be nearly 30 years apart, but they’ve gone down similar paths. Both began as child actors and both of their careers exploded beyond their wildest expectations when they switched their focus to music, releasing blockbuster albums that used intensely personal details. They even both have hit singles whose music videos feature them navigating mixed feelings in a moving vehicle (“Drivers License” and “Ironic”). But the two songwriters, who are big fans of each other’s music, had never met before their Musicians on Musicians interview. They hit it off right away, talking about everything from the power of anger to life in the public eye to when to get your first tattoo.