Your favorite 2 Black Runners are joined by Joe Holder to learn more about his approach to business through Health & Wellness. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB4i_O1JM4q95op-Jc-lmDQ TIME STAMPS: 0:00- Intro 4:35- We messed up the Intro 6:38- Giving Joe his flowers 9:55- Did he have a long-term vision when starting out 15:17- What got him into Personal Training and Health/Wellness 17:44- The secret for anybody is to show up 20:52- Learning when to say yes and no 23:02- How he got the job as a NIKE Master Trainer/Run Coach 28:09- Who Taught him to say YES 32:44- The pressures to post on social media 35:49- Information, Knowledge, and Wisdom 40:00- The importance of language and communication with  personal training  52:14- Joe Holder’s next mission 53:31- Joe Holder’s advice for us 55:53- Power & Change for Health & Wellness 58:30- What is encouraging in the Health & Wellness space 1:01:41- Closing Out Interview 1:04:58- Post Interview reflection ✔Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2blackrunners/ ✔Aaron's IG: https://www.instagram.com/supahotpotts/ ✔Joshua's IG: https://www.instagram.com/mr.pottsible/ ✔YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@2blackrunners ✔Website: https://www.running-report.com/