In this episode, Mike Wasserman and Bela Musits interview Chris Kubisiak. Chrisd is a repeat guest, as he was in EP-101. He is an organizational psychologist by training, but is a passionate sailor who actually got his start in racing, and has done a lot of chartering throughout the Gulf, in the Caribbean and a few more exotic destinations. Given his background in sailing and training as a psychologist, Mike and I thought it would be good to have a conversation about the psychology of sailing.  From Racing to Cruising to how the community is so supportive. You can contact Chris at [email protected] Hope you find our conversation as interesting as we did. If you would like to support the podcast, we now have a Patreon page.  Just go to Patreon.com/sailingtheeast.   We love to hear from you, our listeners, send us your questions, comments, and suggestions at [email protected].  If you know someone that would be an interesting guest on the show, please reach out to us and let us know—wishing you fair winds, and calm seas. Bela and Mike --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bela-l-musits/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bela-l-musits/support