“the oligarchs are symbolically important and also, if anybody is going to have an opportunity to whisper in the ear of Vladimir Putin and say ‘what you’re doing is completely wrong, completely inappropriate, unacceptable, you need to reverse what you’re doing’, it’s going to be one of those people. “ Following their appearance as witnesses to both the Treasury Select Committee and Foreign Affairs Committee earlier this week, Justine is joined by Tom Keatinge, founding Director of the Centre for Financial Crime and Security Studies at RUSI for this podcast episode. They discuss how to strengthen the effectiveness of sanctions on Russia, the challenge of international support for sanctions on Russian oil, and what may lie ahead in unchartered waters. Tom Keatinge is the founding Director of the Centre for Financial Crime and Security Studies (CFCS) at RUSI, where his research focuses on matters at the intersection of finance and security. He has a Master’s in Intelligence and International Security from King’s College London, where he studied the effectiveness of the global counterterror finance regime. Prior to joining RUSI in 2014, he was an investment banker for 20 years at J.P. Morgan. You can read Tom’s full bio here: https://rusi.org/people/keatinge