Investigative journalist and VICE contributor Sarah Berman joins Caitlin this week to talk about Keith Raniere and NXIVM. Sarah has been at the forefront of this story since the beginning, but she’s here to discuss another surprising side to the saga for the first time. It’s creepy, it’s convoluted, it's acapella.   It’s also the subject of an episode of the HBO show How To with John Wilson, titled How to Appreciate Wine.  Caitlin and Sarah unpack the messy story involving a cult leader, Allison Mack, and a choir.  RESOURCES: Don't Call It a Cult: The Shocking Story of Keith Raniere and the Women of Nxivm By: Sarah Berman https://twitter.com/sarahberms New Yorker MAgazine, What Makes a Cult a Cult?  How To with John Wilson on HBO  How to Appreciate Wine.  @caitybrodnick  @scamwowpodcast Scamwowpodcast.com DISCLAIMER: We are comedians and this is satire. C’mon Send us your scams! [email protected] Or call: 347-509-9414 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices