In this episode, guest host Patricia Kong is joined by Kurt Bittner from Scrum.org and Professional Scrum Trainer Laurens Bonnema from Xebia. They talk about Evidence-Based Management (EBM) and Objectives and Key Results (OKRs), and the importance of focusing on outcomes and delivering value. They discuss: - The importance of feedback loops - Measuring and setting goals in business using outcome-oriented metrics - The differences between EBM and OKRs - How to combine EBM and OKRs in decision making -More!