Nick, Tracey & Dale welcome June Shine’s Creative Director, Kahana Kalama to episode #30 of Secondary Colors! Kahana delves into the skills needed for a successful middle-man between marketing teams and artists - aptly comparing the ability to do so as it to it’s own language. Having worked many times with Nick (for JuneShine’s can art) he provides the best practices for the push-and-pull dance required as a successful Creative Director, all while managing a full home life of 5 kids with his lovely wife. The perfect listen for those struggling to understand the needs and demands of their clients. Join us, friends!  Recorded @ Nick Kuchar's Art & Design Shop in sunny Kailua town, Hawai'i. Visit us at www.nickkuchar.com or www.instagram.com/NickKuchar