The is a final short excerpt of the full conversation with Tā Tipene O'Regan who has long been on my dream list of people to interview.  This has some excerpts from that conversation where he was sharing about Governance.   I am grateful to Anake Goodall for helping connect us so this conversation could happen.  Seeds is a project to record life stories, because they matter.  You can find out about it and more than 360 other conversations at www.theseeds.nz  Coming in October is the Seeds Impact Conference www.seedsconference.nz Contact: [email protected]