Stephen Kinzer returns to discuss the coverage and lack of debate on the war between Russia and Ukraine. Bringing his well-earned experience to bear Stephen calls attention to the realities of war and the need for a rational conversation about a peaceful end to the conflict. We also discuss the existential risk of nuclear war and the US's lack of moral standing to wage yet another proxy war. We also cover common objections (sometimes waged in good faith!) to supporting a cease fire in Ukraine. --------- Stephen Kinzer is an award-winning foreign correspondent who has covered more than 50 countries on five continents. His articles and books have led the Washington Post to place him “among the best in popular foreign policy storytelling.” Kinzer spent more than 20 years working for the New York Times, most of it as a foreign correspondent. His foreign postings placed him at the center of historic events and, at times, in the line of fire. Stephen Kinzer's writings PUTIN & ZELENSKY: SINNERS AND SAINTS WHO FIT OUR HISTORIC NARRATIVE THE INCALCULABLE MORAL COST OF PROXY WARS ----------------------- Support Dissident Orthodoxy on Patreon Rate/Review Dissident Orthodoxy on Apple Podcasts Follow Casey's substack As always feel free to reach out and agree/disagree. Nobody has all the answers but we can all ask good questions and engage in good faith.