This week on Sinica, Kaiser is joined by Margaret (Maggie) Lewis, professor of law at Seton Hall University and veteran Taiwan observer, and Paul Heer, former national intelligence officer for East Asia in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) under the Obama administration. Both were members of the Council on Foreign Relations’s task force on U.S.-Taiwan policy, which produced a report titled “U.S.-Taiwan Relations in a New Era: Responding to a More Assertive China.” Both also wrote dissents, included in the report, about some of its findings and recommendations. They discuss what they think the report got right — and what it got wrong. 01:01 – Introduction to the CFR’s report U.S.-Taiwan Relations in a New Era: Responding to a More Assertive China 05:09 – The mechanics of producing the report 06:46 – Areas of common consensus among participants 08:48 – What is the significance of the PLA’s centennial in 2027 in view of the CFR task force? 10:54 – Is the report too focused on the military at the expense of political, diplomatic, and economic considerations? 14:22 – Taiwanese perspectives in the report 16:36 – Strategic ambiguity and President Biden’s “gaffes” as a new baseline for U.S. declaratory policy 20:48 – The issue of deterrence: American and Chinese approaches 25:48 – What has the United States done to move the status quo in terms of the Taiwan issue? 41:06 – Is there evidence yet of Chinese preparation for a military action against Taiwan? A complete transcript of this podcast is available at TheChinaProject.com. Recommendations: Maggie: Fever: The Hunt for Covid’s Origin by John Sudworth (podcast) Paul: Oppenheimer by Christopher Nolan  Kennan: A life between Worlds by Frank Costigliola  Kaiser: The Rise and Fall of the EAST: How Exams, Autocracy, Stability, and Technology Brought China Success, and Why They Might Lead to Its Decline by Yasheng Huang See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.