In this episode, We spoke with Craig Dennis from Twilio about developer education and training. Craig's been working in the developer education space for a long time and has a ton of experience. And, of course, Twilio is a company well known for having a heavy investment in Developer relations and fantastic developer resources and learning resources.  We get into a bunch of things around Twilio's developer education programs. Why Twilio, from a strategy standpoint, has invested so heavily in this and how teaching developers might actually be different than teaching regular people? We hope you enjoy the episode.